A note from the administrator.
I have had to close the forum to new members. Registration is shut. I'm sorry for it - but I can no longer vouch for who comes through the door.
You may also find that certain older topics are no longer where you left them. I have, with great reluctance, removed a small number of threads and posts from this forum. I did so at the written request of a firm of solicitors acting for the landowner, who hold that the material touched on matters they would prefer were not aired in public.
I have complied, because I am one man and they are not. I want it set down plainly, here, that I did so under protest, and that I do not accept the grounds. Nothing removed was untrue. Nothing removed was anyone's business to suppress.
But I will not delete this board. What is left here stays, and you may read it for as long as I can keep the lights on. I have locked the doors; I have not burned the house. I have kept copies of everything. I would ask, gently, that those of you who hold anything of your own do the same.
E. Selwood
I have had to close the forum to new members. Registration is shut. I'm sorry for it - but I can no longer vouch for who comes through the door.
You may also find that certain older topics are no longer where you left them. I have, with great reluctance, removed a small number of threads and posts from this forum. I did so at the written request of a firm of solicitors acting for the landowner, who hold that the material touched on matters they would prefer were not aired in public.
I have complied, because I am one man and they are not. I want it set down plainly, here, that I did so under protest, and that I do not accept the grounds. Nothing removed was untrue. Nothing removed was anyone's business to suppress.
But I will not delete this board. What is left here stays, and you may read it for as long as I can keep the lights on. I have locked the doors; I have not burned the house. I have kept copies of everything. I would ask, gently, that those of you who hold anything of your own do the same.
E. Selwood
The old droving roads, and where the sheep went
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Downland_George
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The old droving roads, and where the sheep went
If the younger members will indulge an old man, I should
like to set down something of the droving while I still have it
clear, for it is going out of memory and was never much written
down. The droves are the green roads, the wide ones, far broader
than any cart needed, and they are wide because they were made
for sheep and cattle moving in their hundreds, grazing as they
went. We drove off the downs to the fairs, and the great one
hereabouts was at Yarnbury Castle, the sheep sold inside the old
hillfort itself, penned within ramparts where men had folded
beasts for two thousand years without knowing it. My grandfather
droved, and his father before him, and I went as a boy on the
last of it, before the lorries came and the fairs died one by
one. The roads are still there if you know to look. Most people
walk a drove and see only a wide old lane. It is the ghost of a
great moving river of animals, and of the men and dogs that went
with them, and there is almost nobody left who can still read
it.
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Marlborough_Nan
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Oh this is wonderful Mr Pyle, do go on, my grandmother
would have loved you. She was a Cannings girl and her people kept
sheep, and she talked about the drove and the fairs just the way
you do, the dogs especially, she always said a good droving dog
was worth more than the man holding it and the man knew it. Did
your people ever come by the Cannings way? I only ask because
shes from there, and Im sat here wondering if our two grans ever
passed on the same road behind the same sheep and never knew it.
Wouldnt that be a thing.
just an old woman who remembers when the green had three shops.
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Downland_George
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Marlborough_Nan, you have given me a turn, in the best
way. My own grandmother was from Etchilhampton, which is, what,
three miles from the Cannings as the crow flies, and the droves
out of that country all fed onto the one green road off the downs
to the fairs. So your grandmother and mine, two Cannings-country
girls of sheep families, will near certainly have walked the
very same drove and stood at the same fairs within a few years of
one another, and never dreamed their grandchildren would meet on
a machine neither could have imagined and work it out between
them. I find I have to put the kettle on. That such a thing can
still come to the surface, long after everyone who could swear to
it is gone, is the whole reason I trouble an old man's eyes
with this screen of an evening.
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Marlborough_Nan
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Put two kettles on Mr Pyle. Three miles and seventy years
apart and here we are, the pair of us, working it out over the
old sheep. I shall tell my aunt, shes the last who knew gran
properly, shell not believe it. Thank you for this, it has made
my whole week. I think we shall be friends, you and I, if youll
put up with an old woman pestering you about droving roads and
dogs.
just an old woman who remembers when the green had three shops.